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Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... of war" into a rescinded actual resumption of war, thus effectively validating Regan's argument. Garvin's position is further weakened by the fact that despite his claim that they "decided to prevent an election taking place", broadly speaking, the anti-Treaty IRA didn't actually ...
by DrNightdub
Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:04 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... Bernard Lewis, he warns against a school of history that aims to “amend, to restate, to replace, or even to recreate the past in a more satisfactory form” [; a school that justifies itself with] a “lesser evil” argument. It says that society is better served by purposely inaccurate histories ...
by michaelcarragher
Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:07 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... a pretext to kill Protestants as Hart alleges (and I dont believe sectarianisim in Cork has been proved conclusively ) it dosent account for the fact that all those executed by the IRAin Clare (3) , Galway (3) & Limerick (7) were all Catholic. So even if Harts theory that the IRA in Cork ...
by bannerman
Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:04 am
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... door. Re Ryan, I don't want to personalise things, but in my opinion there's not much in the way of serious analysis in her work, nor is it very factually reliable. For instance, how can you write a biography of Tom Barry and leave out the fact that (a) he was expelled from the IRA in 1924 for ...
by Jd66
Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:47 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

Re Hart, this is probably old hat at this stage, but the fact is that Hart's work, however much it might annoy people (including me at times), and despite serious flaws in some factual areas, is still streets ahead of most Irish historical writing on ...
by thepremier
Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:52 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... IRA members were Catholic and that they or other nationalist gunmen were responsible for all the military, police and Protestant casualties. In fact some Protestants were probably shot by co-religionists or security forces, and some Catholics were likely shot by the IRA. It is impossible to ...
by DrNightdub
Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:46 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... I can't take them too seriously as objective commentators - they're too obviously biased. Re Hart, this is probably old hat at this stage, but the fact is that Hart's work, however much it might annoy people (including me at times), and despite serious flaws in some factual areas, is still streets ...
by Jd66
Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:13 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... them for gathering together nationalist historians when it was very difficult to get that kind of a platform or social group for a long time. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that they're partly responsible for the energy of nationalist history today. By the way, I think Tim Pat Coogan and Ruán ...
by thepremier
Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:36 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... has lifted it's easy to think oh that was right or that was wrong and reflect, what was called for to be done at Kilmichael or Crossbarry or in fact in other places even by Frank Aiken's men was deemed necessary given the time the place and the people involved, it is not up to us to judge them ...
by Na Fianna Éireann
Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:52 am
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859

Re: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.

... incidentally, which no longer exists, but are pretty much its successors. That they are taken seriously as a forum for debate is indicated by the fact that Jeffrey Dudgeon is currently arguing with Niall Meehan about Peter Hart in their monthly magazine. Meda Ryan has a long and respected career ...
by thepremier
Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:49 pm
 
Forum: 20th Century
Topic: Historical Revisionism and the Irish War of Independence.
Replies: 177
Views: 307859
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